Lang outlines plan for Saugerties venue

Promoter Michael Lang wants to build a permanent venue with a capacity of 15,000 to 30,000 (photo by Dion Ogust)

According to rock festival legend Michael Lang, his new plans to establish a permanent facility to host regular and traveling rock festivals at the Winston Farm site in Saugerties are hinging on two elements, though neither seems poised to stop what he’s got in mind.

Meanwhile, Saugerties town officials are working to set up a date, in the coming weeks, to formalize their role in developing and okaying Lang’s plans, expressing comfort with what’s being proposed and hoping it eventually gestates into something permanent, maybe on a scale similar to the Saratoga Performing Arts Center.

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Lang — who was one of three young men who put together the massive Woodstock Festival of 1969, along with its reunion concerts in 1994 and 1999 (along with earlier and later festival achievements that included a series of Miami Rock Festivals, and a hand in the infamous Rolling Stones free concert that’s become known simply as “Altamont”) — has heard positive feedback from Winston Farm owner Jeremy Schaller, who’s been in talks with Saugerties Town Supervisor Kelly Myers, and members of the Saugerties Town Board. He says the nature of what he’s got in mind, and all the work he had done to the Winston Farm site 18 years ago in anticipation of the Woodstock ’94 bash there, make his permitting needs much simpler than anything he’s done before.

Lang is setting up a facility that will have parking and camping areas onsite at the 850-acre Winston Farm, which was once proposed for a county-wide dump, and later talked about as a possible site for a gambling casino. There’s a road system already in place, pedestrian footbridges that need replanking, ample electricity and a water piping system the impresario is planning to have checked out and either refurbished or replaced in the coming year. That site will be made available to existing festivals, in the 15,000 to 30,000 range, as well as smaller events, which will make the actual applications for mass gathering and other permits from town, county and state facilities.

“The town seems ready to endorse the idea,” Lang said, seated on the verandah at his Willow home this past week, following a flurry of business meetings in previous days. “Things are still very early but everyone’s enthusiastic, including the local business community I’ve been meeting with. Everyone recognizes that the proposed size and scale of things is very manageable. The remaining big challenge at the moment is time…putting things together.”

Which led to the second item Lang spoke about negotiating at present, largely off record.

He mentioned several existing summer festivals he’s in talks with, each of which is expressing interest in moving from current locations to Winston Farm for next summer. As well as a trip he’s making to Ireland at the end of this month to visit an interesting festival there. And specific mention of The Big Chill, an England-based festival that’s been bringing in visual, spoken word and other arts for a different sort of experience over the past 20 years.

Summer festivals are big business these days. The current biggies — including Bonnaroo in Tennessee, Coachella in California, and Glastonbury in western England — draw crowds between 60,000 and 150,000 each year. The small specialized events, including the likes of Truck and All Tomorrow’s Parties — each of which landed in the Catskills for a time — tend to stay in the 5,000 person range, thriving on their intimacy.

There are 3 comments

  1. Barton Friedman

    I’m not sure I like the idea. Although it may benefit business owners I think it’ll disturb the peace and tranquility of the village. If it does happen, I feel that the the town must stipulate that the musical events not occur during the Garlic Festival, The Fourth of July Parade/Fireworks, Memorial Day Parade or during the Sawyer Motors Car show. Also, if it does happen, the festival corporation must pay town and county taxes on the property and not “payments in lieu of taxes”. Too many business operate here with tax exemptions. Let’s keep this in mind during the vetting process.

  2. nicholas

    i would prefer if globalfoundries obtained the site. they propose 1,400-1,500 annual jobs, where mr lang can at best have 200 jobs annually. more jobs equals more revenue for the town.

  3. CONCERNED 1

    WELL I THINK MRS. KELLY MYERS SHOULD LISTEN TO SOME LOCAL PEOPLE WHO BORDER THIS PROPERTY. OK SO PARKING ( ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CARS ARE NOT LEAKING ANY OILS,GAS, ECT THAT WILL LEAK INTO OUR WELLS ?) CAMPING THERE IS THE FIRST STEP TO TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM LOCAL CAMPING GROUNDS IN OUR AREA. ARE THESE CONCERTS GOING TO BE ON WORK NIGHTS FOR LOCAL PEOPLE ? ARE YOU GOING TO BE USING MOWERMILL ROAD. IF SO PLEASE BUY MY HOME SO I CAN MOVE BACK TO WHERE THE ANIMALS CAN RUN FREE AND DO YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH YOU ARE DISRUPTING THE NATURAL ENVIREMENT.. WE IN SAUGERTIES NEED TO PULL TOGETHER AND HAVE THINGS IN WRITTING . TO THE TOWN BOARD I THINK BEFORE YOU APROVE THIS COME TALK WITH US WHO BORDER THSI PROPERTY . MY LANG IN NOT THE GREAT PERSON WHO SET UP ALL THES CONCERTS IT WAS PURE CAOS AND PROFIT FOR HIM . KINDA FUNNY I HAVE BEEN HERE MANY YEARS AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I SEEN ANY OF WINSTONS CUT AND TAKEN CARE OF . OHHH AND OUR ROAD IS PRIVATE SO IF YOU ARE USING THE ROAD UP ON THE HILL TOP THEN COMPENSATE EVERY ONE ON MOWER MILL. YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SNEAK ON THIS PROERTY. BATHROOMS IS ANOTHER CONCERN . WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE WILL USE THE WOODS IS THAT GOOD FOR MY PROPERTY??? JOHNNY ON THE SPOTS ,WELL THANK YOU WHAT WE NEED IS MORE FLIES . ARE YOU GOING TO FENCE YOUR PROPERTY FROM OURS ?? I AM VERY CONCERENED THAT IT SEEMS LIKE A GO ALREADY AND THERE HAS BEEN NO OPEN TOWN MEETINGS TO HEAR CONCERNS . I WILL BE AT EVERY MEETING FROM HERE ON . DONT PUSH US OUT WITH SECRET MEETINGS.

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